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boehner is at his weakest point ever. to push something through. doing that would weaken him even further. he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody who is already sitting there as the speaker than it is to stop him from running in the first place. >> if i could add to what ryan is saying, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans'
boehner is at his weakest point ever. to push something through. doing that would weaken him even further. he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days...
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boehner has been taking lots of heat with conservatives. speaker boehner needs to resign. gop needs new negotiator and a new plan. conn tweeted baner is useless. >> good to see both of you. mark, i'll start with you. how much trouble is john boehner in, do you think? >> it remains to be seen, richard. i wouldn't want to be in john boehner's shoes rooity now. the most likely path of averting the fiscal cliff before the new year would be getting what president obama laid out yesterday and that was extending the bush-era tax cuts of $250,000 or below as well as extending unemployment insurance and if it sails through the senate and gets to the house and john boehner allows that to get up to a vote it would most likely pass without a majority of house republicans and that could infuriate the republican caucus. the other option for house speaker john boehner would be to hold firm to hold their ground. however, that's actually the most likely outcome to going over the fiscal cliff and all polls, actually show that republicans would bear the brunt of the blame for that. so i woul
boehner has been taking lots of heat with conservatives. speaker boehner needs to resign. gop needs new negotiator and a new plan. conn tweeted baner is useless. >> good to see both of you. mark, i'll start with you. how much trouble is john boehner in, do you think? >> it remains to be seen, richard. i wouldn't want to be in john boehner's shoes rooity now. the most likely path of averting the fiscal cliff before the new year would be getting what president obama laid out yesterday...
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john boehner had a plan. speaker boehner had a plan. that was on monday. everybody was talking about that plan. we were planning to vote on that today. he could not get the votes. in order to be an effective lead eyou have to have followers. the speaker doesn't have followers. so what we're doing today is wasting time pretending, making political points but not moving the ball forward to get a -- to a compromise that will be necessary if we're going to avoid the sequester that nobody wants, not go over the cliff and take very positive steps toward getting this country on a fiscally -- >> you are a big vote counter. does he have the votes now for what he has done with all the changes he's made? has that made -- given him now the votes, do you think? >> my presumption is that's why he's made the changes because the most radical members of his caucus would not go for anything less. and he's got all of his interest groups still demanding that they shouldn't even pass the million dollar plan so that unfortunately speaker boehner who i think wants to lead. i thi
john boehner had a plan. speaker boehner had a plan. that was on monday. everybody was talking about that plan. we were planning to vote on that today. he could not get the votes. in order to be an effective lead eyou have to have followers. the speaker doesn't have followers. so what we're doing today is wasting time pretending, making political points but not moving the ball forward to get a -- to a compromise that will be necessary if we're going to avoid the sequester that nobody wants, not...
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he didn't whack boehner or make a distinction between democrats and republicans. he sort of vaguely -- he attacked the vague congress, but at the end of the day, it's quite clear he can bring a lot more democrats to the table who are willing to compromise, maybe give on issues they don't want to give on than boehner can. so it's not even a congressional problem. it's a house republican problem. and think at some point in time the president is going to have to change his message a little bit to make that abundantly clear to those americans who are listening. >> you know, i hear your frustration and criticism with speaker boehner. a part of me feels sorry for him. >> i wish i could. >> i linger under the belief that president obama and speaker boehner in a room together could cut a deal. i think boehner can't crow his colleagues. >> well, yes rk, that's true an i've heard that sympathy for boehner and that's true, but on the other hand, leaders are able to solve problems an he hasn't been able to solve it at all. >> as a fallback plan to protect the middle class, re
he didn't whack boehner or make a distinction between democrats and republicans. he sort of vaguely -- he attacked the vague congress, but at the end of the day, it's quite clear he can bring a lot more democrats to the table who are willing to compromise, maybe give on issues they don't want to give on than boehner can. so it's not even a congressional problem. it's a house republican problem. and think at some point in time the president is going to have to change his message a little bit to...
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and now boehner is out here having to fight the battle. and i also think it's interesting that we talk about the relationship between boehner and cantor and you know, there is a lot of rumblings from those folks and the ones who coalesced around cantor. who said the two months would not fly. and boehner knew that. he said i sort of told mcconnell that wasn't going to work. there was a kind of belief from the senate which allowed the folks in the house call, called the house of lords over there, that while these commoners in the house will just take what we give and they should do it because we're so much smarter. >> and we will be talking -- >> you're seeing that rebellion right now that we've seen all year. >> we'll be talking more about the interesting dynamic between the house and the senate a little bit later. i want to talk about the white house and how this is just like -- the golden goose. if you will, the white house has a new, they're enlisting the american public. asking what a tax hike of $40 per paycheck woe mean to them. one m
and now boehner is out here having to fight the battle. and i also think it's interesting that we talk about the relationship between boehner and cantor and you know, there is a lot of rumblings from those folks and the ones who coalesced around cantor. who said the two months would not fly. and boehner knew that. he said i sort of told mcconnell that wasn't going to work. there was a kind of belief from the senate which allowed the folks in the house call, called the house of lords over there,...
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that's bane that's boehner. that's after issa selected john kerry to testify in front of the committee next month. issa is accusing the department. says the new s&p will compel kerry to, quote, answer questionsing your agency's response about the investigation of the attack. david cornyn has been following this. and michael tomaski is a special correspondent for "the daily beast." is there anything here? i've been arguing and watching this thing. i do have a file cabinet in my head. it's not like every day is brand-new thing. consistently we got reports there was a copycat kind of thing. there was protests all over the middle east at that time. cairo was obviously all over the media. that led to kind of a copycat operation in this benghazi facility out there. and, of course, the whoelg thing seems to have come out o of anger in the islamic and arab world of this crazy and on knox vus video that went out. we all know that. that's in the paper, the news that came out. what's new, pussycat? why do they keep making
that's bane that's boehner. that's after issa selected john kerry to testify in front of the committee next month. issa is accusing the department. says the new s&p will compel kerry to, quote, answer questionsing your agency's response about the investigation of the attack. david cornyn has been following this. and michael tomaski is a special correspondent for "the daily beast." is there anything here? i've been arguing and watching this thing. i do have a file cabinet in my...
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boehner's plan b gimmick failed big time last night at this point a fiscal cliff deal with boehner's members would probably require divine intervention. >> how we get there, god only knows. but all i've done is -- eric and i and our team here are committed to working with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, both sides of the capitol and the white house to address it. >> after a day with dealing with humiliation, boehner hit the gavel and sent his members home for the holidays. there will be no deal this weekend. then boehner took the walk of shame out of the capitol. it's unclear whether he will be the speaker in the new year. it was the same sad walk many house members took last night when they couldn't get their own folks to vote on boehner's plan b. republican leaders can't strike a deal with their own members. how will they strike one with the president of the united states? boehner was scrambling for excuses today. >> you know, one of my colleagues the other night had an analogy of 100 people drowning in a pool and that he was a lifeguard. and because he couldn't save any
boehner's plan b gimmick failed big time last night at this point a fiscal cliff deal with boehner's members would probably require divine intervention. >> how we get there, god only knows. but all i've done is -- eric and i and our team here are committed to working with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, both sides of the capitol and the white house to address it. >> after a day with dealing with humiliation, boehner hit the gavel and sent his members home for the...
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boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle
boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution....
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so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises. maybe he does go back to the old school way of how he used to be, which was, you know, trying to strike the grand bargain and going across the aisle and such to get big issues done. frankly, it's going to be really hard to get issues like immigration, gun control -- >> it is. and i guess my question -- who talks to the white house? who will negotiate for the republican party on capitol hill? john boehner said it's not going to be him. >> exactly. john boehner actually said, i'm not going to have one-on-one meetings with the president a
so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises....
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john boehner put himself out there. on wednesday he said, in a press, short press conference, he said, we are going to pass this and it is going to be in the presence. not only did they not pass it, it didn't even come for a vote. the speaker vote on whether john boehner remains speaker is january 3rd. should he worry about his chances there? >> there are a lot of moving parts on whether or not he is going to hold his speakership. two things ended up happening last night. one house republicans lost a lot of leverage in this debate. they didn't have a whole lot going into it but they lost whatever they had. now if there is going to be any kind of deal either now or after december 31st, it's going to be done with a substantial of house democrats and that really takes away a lot of the bargaining chips that house republicans played. but the bigger result of last night was a loss of republican leadership. that goes straight to exactly the question on john boehner. and there is maybe the question that can anyone end up leadi
john boehner put himself out there. on wednesday he said, in a press, short press conference, he said, we are going to pass this and it is going to be in the presence. not only did they not pass it, it didn't even come for a vote. the speaker vote on whether john boehner remains speaker is january 3rd. should he worry about his chances there? >> there are a lot of moving parts on whether or not he is going to hold his speakership. two things ended up happening last night. one house...
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he took issue with john boehner calling ted cruz the devil incarnate. in congressman peter king's opinion it's not fair to compare ted cruz to the devil because that wrongly casts aspersions on the devil that the devil does not deserve. >> former house speaker john boehner raising some serious eyebrows today with comments about senator ted cruz, calling him lucifer in the flesh. your take on this latest dispute, you know both of these men. >> i fully agree with john boehner. and maybe he gives lucifer a bad name by comparing him to ted cruz. >> when your fellow republicans compare you to satan, and the only rebuke they get for it is from other republicans who say they actually prefer satan to you, that's a good reminder of what ted cruz brings to this presidential race in terms of goodwill built up from his previous career among republican politicians. >> a good republican would defend ted cruz after tonight. that ain't happening. if you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial was in the senate, nobody could convict you. >> we need somebo
he took issue with john boehner calling ted cruz the devil incarnate. in congressman peter king's opinion it's not fair to compare ted cruz to the devil because that wrongly casts aspersions on the devil that the devil does not deserve. >> former house speaker john boehner raising some serious eyebrows today with comments about senator ted cruz, calling him lucifer in the flesh. your take on this latest dispute, you know both of these men. >> i fully agree with john boehner. and...
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he comes to boehner with no hand. no numbers that match in his hand. did it make sense for the president to go to $400,000? >> the senate saying $500,000. >> i was concerned about that. richard spoke he was concerned the president was putting too much on the table. i was concerned about that as well. in terms of the relationship here, i don't think that's the major story. i think they have enough of a working relationship. they have been cultivating the birthday acknowledgement was a nice gesture. i thought that played well. i think they are beginning to have enough of a working relationship that's not the issue. >> at this point with boehner being so weak, he clearly is at a bad point. his speakership has been bad the whole way through. he's not been able to get much done. should he have gone in for the kill? we are going back to my original deal, take it or leave it or help boehner save face here? >> he's put the speaker in an awkward position with the new bill that's going to come out in the senate. big if as to whether it could pass. is mitch mccon
he comes to boehner with no hand. no numbers that match in his hand. did it make sense for the president to go to $400,000? >> the senate saying $500,000. >> i was concerned about that. richard spoke he was concerned the president was putting too much on the table. i was concerned about that as well. in terms of the relationship here, i don't think that's the major story. i think they have enough of a working relationship. they have been cultivating the birthday acknowledgement was...
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speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican party. governors like chris christie and bobby jindal take occasional shots at their own party and look almost mainstream by comparison. for the record, white house press secretary jay carney said today that the president believes a strong two-party system is the foundation of our democracy. let's bring in msnbc political analyst richard wolffe and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. richard, great to have you on always. >> thanks, ed. >> no one, including president obama, has the power to shove the gop into the dustbin of history unless they of course do it themselves. your thoughts. >> yeah, look. for a start, john boehner may think that he needs to gin up some enthusiasm among depressed donors o
speaker boehner is basically whining like a coach who's had the score run up on him. i mean, boehner has a little less swagger than he did two years ago when he took over the house with this wave of tea party republicans, but what a difference a couple of years makes. president obama is not the only one who benefits from contrasting himself with the republican party. governors like chris christie and bobby jindal take occasional shots at their own party and look almost mainstream by comparison....
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. >> neither is boehner. how much we got the number one and number two guys not really big policy guys and the whole conservative movement is based on supposedly wanting more policy fights. >> remember, in theory cantor was supposed to be the guy -- >> he was more the meat. >> right. who was kind of the -- moving the water in a different way to different audiences, to different segments of the population. i mean, mccarthy, he knows roughly about as much about policy as i do, which is not a whole heck of a lot. let's be honest. >> you're not complimenting him. >> no, it's not a compliment. this is a political guy. >> he should be rnc chair. >> that's all well and good. for someone like me or you, it's interesting. but you're now the second leader in the party and if boehner steps aside, whatever boehner does now, is he going to be the speaker? >> is that -- >> who else is there to challenge him? maybe if steve skalies gets the whip job -- >> you would call him the front-runner? >> ra -- roskim, he would be --
. >> neither is boehner. how much we got the number one and number two guys not really big policy guys and the whole conservative movement is based on supposedly wanting more policy fights. >> remember, in theory cantor was supposed to be the guy -- >> he was more the meat. >> right. who was kind of the -- moving the water in a different way to different audiences, to different segments of the population. i mean, mccarthy, he knows roughly about as much about policy as i...
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he just spoke with boehner. boehner has been brutally attacked for what happened last night by conservatives. look at this. washington post conservative columnist jennifer rubin called the fiasco a stunning miscalculation. boehner lost control of the caucus and with it, any juice he might have. i mean, the washington examiner says boehner is now useless. if i'm john boehner and they've already given me this humiliating defeat, what do i have to lose to come back and deal with a minority of the majority if, in fact, it will save the american people of this kind from going over the cliff and the repercussions that go with it. >> i do think he has kind of a moment of conscious over this holiday and a moment of decision. it's worth noting generjennifer rubin's piece for giving everything the sense that they can recover. she's a conservative. a lot of conservatives are saying that. if there's any hope that we get some kind of resolution or at least partial resolution to keep us from going over the cliff. i think it's
he just spoke with boehner. boehner has been brutally attacked for what happened last night by conservatives. look at this. washington post conservative columnist jennifer rubin called the fiasco a stunning miscalculation. boehner lost control of the caucus and with it, any juice he might have. i mean, the washington examiner says boehner is now useless. if i'm john boehner and they've already given me this humiliating defeat, what do i have to lose to come back and deal with a minority of the...
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house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going over the cliff, but as you pointed out in your introduction, a lot of senators over the weekend expressed concern that, in fact, we will go over the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually slip back into recession. one interesting point, thomas, though, last time that members of congress worked between christmas and new year's was 1996. that was during the government shutdown. this is really a rare occurrence for members of congress to have to come back and work out legislation that they went able to get done before the christmas holiday. >> the president is supposed to stay there for how long? >> well, of course, the white house not really giving us specifics about the president's travel plans at this point in time. the reality is i think the president is h
house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going over the cliff, but as you pointed out in your introduction, a lot of senators over the weekend expressed concern that, in fact, we will go over the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually...
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and where john boehner was a member. the man complained in his initial interaction with police that because he had just been fired from the country club, he quote, did not have time to put something in john boehner's drink. they interviewed him in october about the case. he stated he did know the bartender from the club, but he didn't recall any negative situations. he thanked investigators for their efforts in the case, but again, the very strange breaking news tonight from the fbi, is that a man in ohio has been arrested for threatening to kill house speaker john boehner. that indictment was filed tonight. we'll bring you more on the story if and when we learn more. the man in question is in custody right now. we'll be right back. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. buy their services directly at angieslist.com no more calling around. no more hassles. start shopping from a list of top-rated providers today. angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. visit angies
and where john boehner was a member. the man complained in his initial interaction with police that because he had just been fired from the country club, he quote, did not have time to put something in john boehner's drink. they interviewed him in october about the case. he stated he did know the bartender from the club, but he didn't recall any negative situations. he thanked investigators for their efforts in the case, but again, the very strange breaking news tonight from the fbi, is that a...
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i think speaker boehner wants to get a deal. whatever happened last night it did not eliminate the risk that the cliff causes our economy, and our people. it's incumbent upon us, therefore, to continue to work towards a solution and to reach a solution prior to the end the year. the fact that members are not in town -- frankly we've been in town for four weeks and members have not been doing much. one of the least productive times since i've been in congress. but the speaker and president were working together where the speaker to sell it to its caucus and the president could sell it to democrats on capitol hill. let's hope they continue do that. i urged both of them to do that. work through the weekend, work into next week. we still have time to come back on the 27th or 28th of this month, and enact a compromise but will only to be done if democrats and republicans work together. >> well, are your willing to give him the votes to put this over? clearly's not going to be able to deliver a majority of his caucus. so, how many vot
i think speaker boehner wants to get a deal. whatever happened last night it did not eliminate the risk that the cliff causes our economy, and our people. it's incumbent upon us, therefore, to continue to work towards a solution and to reach a solution prior to the end the year. the fact that members are not in town -- frankly we've been in town for four weeks and members have not been doing much. one of the least productive times since i've been in congress. but the speaker and president were...
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tea party patriots saying it is time for boehner to go. and another group asking to spend a million dollars on anti-leadership ads is this the beginning of a big insurrection. i thought he figured out a way to avoid trouble to get him through so they can win big and pick up maybe 20 seats. sdpl you are living in the rational world of political strategy. >> i want to stay there, too. >> i that's not where the tea party people are. they are serious about wanting to get rid of john boehner. >> do they believe he is a liberal? >> they believe he is a complete renegade. they absolutely do. they know that there is no real mechanism for getting rid of him in the middle -- they want to do it. what they are going to do is hope that they elect more tea party people in the next mid term elections and then have the votes to oust him. the big problem is they don't have a single consensus. >> i don't think they think he is a liberal. i think they think he is a collaborationest. that he is part of the system, working on compromises, passing a farm bill,
tea party patriots saying it is time for boehner to go. and another group asking to spend a million dollars on anti-leadership ads is this the beginning of a big insurrection. i thought he figured out a way to avoid trouble to get him through so they can win big and pick up maybe 20 seats. sdpl you are living in the rational world of political strategy. >> i want to stay there, too. >> i that's not where the tea party people are. they are serious about wanting to get rid of john...
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for boehner idea today. i kind of share it. but on the other hand, really good politicians solve problems. he hasn't been able to solve that problem at all. look, the one thing, michael, i'm very much with you and with the folks you've been talking to in the sentiment to you and the president express. but i do want to avoid the puck is on both houses when you say democrats and republicans. at least the president has really come a long way. he gave the republicans a higher income tax threshold. he gave the chain cpi. he cut the debt ceiling in the deal. he gave them another trillion dollars in spending cuts. i think he's absolutely in the right when he says i have tried to compromise and i've been met with complete intransigence. >> an aide tells nbc news senator reid believes republicans should return to negotiating table and work with democrats that avoids the fiscal cliff all together. republicans should support passing a bill that extends tax cuts for families up to $250,000 and delays the so-called seque
for boehner idea today. i kind of share it. but on the other hand, really good politicians solve problems. he hasn't been able to solve that problem at all. look, the one thing, michael, i'm very much with you and with the folks you've been talking to in the sentiment to you and the president express. but i do want to avoid the puck is on both houses when you say democrats and republicans. at least the president has really come a long way. he gave the republicans a higher income tax threshold....
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and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply peel off 26 or more republicans to get something passed. the problem here is that, you know, what can be done now. there are only two choices. compromise or crisis. the problem with the fiscal cliff is for most voters in this country, it's not a real crisis. it's a phony crisis. it's something like the end of the world that was supposed to happen yesterday that didn't happen. it was a crisis created by congress and we're not really likely to see serious action on deficit and debt reduction, unless and until the crisis hits people in the face and they say to their representatives you'd better do something or else and then they'll act. >> always a pleasure, bill schneider and
and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply peel off 26 or more republicans to get something passed. the problem here is that, you know, what can be done now. there are only two...
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the president is at 400,000 and boehner is at 1 million. the president is flustered and he feels he's giving enough and boehner is resisting because of the tea party members in his house. >> right now the republican brand is taking a hit about being too extreme and the new cnn/orc poll finding americans do think the republican party is too extreme. we have congressman john fleming telling roll call of today's vote, i think there's sort of an intuitive feeling on our side and i don't necessarily agree with it that we want to mitigate as much damage as possible. chip, is that what's behind this strategy here? does speaker john boehner have a bigger play in mind? something for the longer game? >> think that may have something to do with it, but the speaker does have a longer game in mind and revenue has to start in the house and this is a starting point as far as the speaker is concerned and he can say it after this bill passes and he can go to the president and say we've passed something and it's in the senate and see what's next. >> this is
the president is at 400,000 and boehner is at 1 million. the president is flustered and he feels he's giving enough and boehner is resisting because of the tea party members in his house. >> right now the republican brand is taking a hit about being too extreme and the new cnn/orc poll finding americans do think the republican party is too extreme. we have congressman john fleming telling roll call of today's vote, i think there's sort of an intuitive feeling on our side and i don't...
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that's boehner. that's after darrell issa revealed he had subpoenaed secretary of state john kerry to testify in front of the committee later this month. issa is accusing the department. of quote failing to meet its legal obligations saying the new subpoena will compel kerry to, quote, answer questions about your agency's response to congressional investigation of the benghazi attack. david corn has been following this. he's an msnbc political analyst. he's also washington bureau chief for mother jones. and michael tomasky is a special correspondent for "the daily beast." gentlemen, you know your stuff here. is there anything here? i've been arguing and watching this thing. i do have a file cabinet in my head. i can follow this thing. it's not like every day is brand-new thing. consistently we've gotten reports that what happened was there was a copycat kind of thing. there was terrorist -- i mean there was protests all over the middle east at that time. cairo was obviously all over the media. that l
that's boehner. that's after darrell issa revealed he had subpoenaed secretary of state john kerry to testify in front of the committee later this month. issa is accusing the department. of quote failing to meet its legal obligations saying the new subpoena will compel kerry to, quote, answer questions about your agency's response to congressional investigation of the benghazi attack. david corn has been following this. he's an msnbc political analyst. he's also washington bureau chief for...
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john boehner isn't just saying he's against this. he's saying that becomes all too normal in washington, that we may not even get a vote on the issue to find out where people stand on a key question going into the holidays and going into a period where people are hurting in the recession. >> the congresswoman brings up a great point. this idea of compromise. the question i always have, why are we always compromising on the backs of regular middle class american folks. we did some great things with this budget deal in terms of cutting into this idea of austerity. at the same time, though, i think that we're still seeing this attempt to balance on the backs of regular americans. could you talk to us about, you know, what are we going to do about interest? we're seeing okay, we're not doing anything for workers. but we now have where it's more expensive for workers to retire at this point in this plan, and we're balancing again on the backs of these folks who can be retires. so what are we going to do about that and when can we see move
john boehner isn't just saying he's against this. he's saying that becomes all too normal in washington, that we may not even get a vote on the issue to find out where people stand on a key question going into the holidays and going into a period where people are hurting in the recession. >> the congresswoman brings up a great point. this idea of compromise. the question i always have, why are we always compromising on the backs of regular middle class american folks. we did some great...
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some lawmakers like john boehner criticizing the president for the policies saying there should have been residual forces in iraq to prevent this type of escalation from happening. similar comments coming from senators john mccain lindsey grah graham. there are those who say the president is taking the right actions to prevent a potential genocide. so we're getting reaction all over the spectrum. there's also concern, though, betty, here in washington and throughout the country about what is called mission creep. the idea that taking these initial steps could ultimately lead to a broader escalation in iraq. president obama insisted that u.s. troops will not be going back into iraq and the administration call for the iraqi government to create a more inclusive government they believe ultimately that is the key to solving this crisis. meetings going on at the most senior levels. i make one more point. you noted there was an air drop yesterday. food and water 8,000 prepackaged meals, 5300 gallons of water for those people who are stranded on top of that mountain top. i anticipate we'll
some lawmakers like john boehner criticizing the president for the policies saying there should have been residual forces in iraq to prevent this type of escalation from happening. similar comments coming from senators john mccain lindsey grah graham. there are those who say the president is taking the right actions to prevent a potential genocide. so we're getting reaction all over the spectrum. there's also concern, though, betty, here in washington and throughout the country about what is...
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president obama challenging house speaker john boehner to hold a vote immediately to end the partial closure. right now it's an all out war of words. >> if republicans and speaker boehners are saying there's not enough votes they should prove it. let the bill go to the floor and see what happens. just vote. let every member of congress vote and they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. >> speaker boehner responded. >> the american people expect that leaders will sit down and at least have a conversation. really, mr. president, it's time to have that conversation before our economy is put further at risk. >> on sunday the speaker said there were not enough votes in the house to pass a clean continuing resolution to fund the government but right now as mazz 21 republicans have said they could join all the democrats to pass a simple extension. that extension would resurrect programs the shutdown has left paralyzed. >> it's going to hurt working families, it's going to hurt small business, big business, entrepreneurs and the folks in agriculture. it's not a
president obama challenging house speaker john boehner to hold a vote immediately to end the partial closure. right now it's an all out war of words. >> if republicans and speaker boehners are saying there's not enough votes they should prove it. let the bill go to the floor and see what happens. just vote. let every member of congress vote and they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. >> speaker boehner responded. >> the american people expect...
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john boehner cannot negotiate now. if he didn't have the votes for his plan "b" that set that income threshold at $1 million, there's no way in the world he gets anywhere close to the amount of votes he's going to need for the latest negotiating position for the president, which was up to $250,000 to $400,000 for married couples filing jointly. that's where we are right now. the threshold question all along is would john boehner put something on the floor of the house of representatives that required him to pass by majority democratic support and lose the majority of his party -- the republican party. i'm here to tell you, michael, that simply doesn't happen. >> is it good or bad news for the president, mike, in so far as the boehner defeat, the embarrassment last night really leaves the president without someone with whom he can negotiate? in other words, who does the president turn to now? >> reporter: and that is a great question. as a matter of fact, we are told that harry reid, the democratic leader of the senate,
john boehner cannot negotiate now. if he didn't have the votes for his plan "b" that set that income threshold at $1 million, there's no way in the world he gets anywhere close to the amount of votes he's going to need for the latest negotiating position for the president, which was up to $250,000 to $400,000 for married couples filing jointly. that's where we are right now. the threshold question all along is would john boehner put something on the floor of the house of...
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boehner. he has to decide does he continue to appease the tea party wing or does he put a clean cr on the floor. >> the continuing resolution funding the government is now out of the senate and in order to avoid a government shutdown, it's up to house republicans to now pass a spending bill. >> so, over the next three day, house republicans will have to decide whether to join the senate and keep the government open or shut it down. >> and as democrats led by the president are pressing speaker boehner for a clean bill that funds obama care, it looks like house republicans are taking directions from someone else. >> i view what's critical is that the house pass a measure that protects the american people from the harms that obama care is causing. >> according to robert costa, senator ted cruz is continuing to press conservative members to revolt against boehner and strip the cr bill of obama care funding. there by inviting a shut down on monday. in just three day, we will know if ted cruz is abl
boehner. he has to decide does he continue to appease the tea party wing or does he put a clean cr on the floor. >> the continuing resolution funding the government is now out of the senate and in order to avoid a government shutdown, it's up to house republicans to now pass a spending bill. >> so, over the next three day, house republicans will have to decide whether to join the senate and keep the government open or shut it down. >> and as democrats led by the president are...
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look, boehner has, right now, a few cards that he can play. he wants to quiet the noise on his side. you talk about the joint references. why is he always saying what he's saying publicly. that's just to make sure that people know that, look, this is still important for us. but he gets inside the room. you even eluded to that movement. >> you're laying out what you think republicans can give. what do you think the democrats, the moderates, the progress ifrs really want to see on the other side? do they want to see the rate change for the rich? above 250, 300, 400? do they want to say before you take a piece out of me, you've got to take a piece out of them. >> i think the 250 above is really important 679 i'll fell you why that is. it's because if you look at who got hurt the most in the downturn, it was the 98%, right? the very rich, the wealthiest in this country did pretty well. they did well even as the rest of the country has fallen often the cliff. so the idea that you're going to make it a little more progressive, even if later on you d
look, boehner has, right now, a few cards that he can play. he wants to quiet the noise on his side. you talk about the joint references. why is he always saying what he's saying publicly. that's just to make sure that people know that, look, this is still important for us. but he gets inside the room. you even eluded to that movement. >> you're laying out what you think republicans can give. what do you think the democrats, the moderates, the progress ifrs really want to see on the other...
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>> okay, then. >> john boehner is played by the great john goodman. and for the chaos in washington follow the latest on twitter at @bashirlive on twitter or follow me on facebook. and the next boehner compromise. stay with us. ♪ whoa. right? get out. i know! who knew? i mean. exactly! really. that's what i mean. [ mom ] what? shut the front door. right? seriously. who knew? hello sir. bingo! mahjong! for realz. woop-woop! franklin delano! [ male announcer ] hey, there's oreo creme under that fudge! oreo fudge cremes. indescribably good. [ male announcer ] hey, there's oreo creme under that fudge! woman: day care can be so to save some money, i found one that uses robots instead of real people. 'cuz robots work for free. robot 1:good morning... robot 1:...female child. sfx: modem dial-up noise woman: flaws? yeah, um, maybe. anncr: there's an easier way to save. anncr: get online. go to geico.com. get a quote. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. that's how it is with alzheimer's disease. she needs help from me. and her medication.
>> okay, then. >> john boehner is played by the great john goodman. and for the chaos in washington follow the latest on twitter at @bashirlive on twitter or follow me on facebook. and the next boehner compromise. stay with us. ♪ whoa. right? get out. i know! who knew? i mean. exactly! really. that's what i mean. [ mom ] what? shut the front door. right? seriously. who knew? hello sir. bingo! mahjong! for realz. woop-woop! franklin delano! [ male announcer ] hey, there's oreo...
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boehner. he should have been ashamed of himself. >> you said he is appealing to appeal to the right wing of his party and you have conservative groups slamming this plan "b." let me play some of the criticism he's getting from the right of the party. let's play it. >> the american people did not re-elect the conservative house of representatives to become tax collectors for barack obama's welfare state. >> we supported challengers who were opposed to t.a.r.p., who were opposed to the debt deal. 2011. and this is the sort of vote that we'll look at closely when we look at our options in 2014. >> so congressman pascrell, they oppose plan "b" differently than your opposition but you have two different sides of this coin and people are wondering where speaker boehner is at all on this when no one is happy and if he's appealing to the right, they're not pleased with him. >> well, mr. boehner has the hell of a nerve to say that mister -- the president of the united states barack obama can't stand up
boehner. he should have been ashamed of himself. >> you said he is appealing to appeal to the right wing of his party and you have conservative groups slamming this plan "b." let me play some of the criticism he's getting from the right of the party. let's play it. >> the american people did not re-elect the conservative house of representatives to become tax collectors for barack obama's welfare state. >> we supported challengers who were opposed to t.a.r.p., who...
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. >> that was house speaker john boehner in june on president for taking a nap with iraq. speaker boehner was more muted, if hardly more complimentary as he announced his support for the authorization of air strikes. he did declare he is quote, dismayed by the ongoing absence of a strategy by the disengaged administration. republican hawks sounded a similar note. graham and mccain launched a joint statement, we need to get beyond a policy of half measures and comprehensive strategy to degrade isis, if ever a time to evaluate disastrous policy in the middle east this is it. many democrats back the president's actions, some echoed a war weary public. more forceful quote, we cannot allow a humanitarian crisis to draw us into a war that would again cost the iraqi people far too much in destruction and lives lost. joining me now is jonathan allen and foreign affairs correspondent, michael crowley. michael, in terms of the interesting position which is to say uncomfortable position these air strikes put both republicans and democrats. we have been talking a lot about rand paul a
. >> that was house speaker john boehner in june on president for taking a nap with iraq. speaker boehner was more muted, if hardly more complimentary as he announced his support for the authorization of air strikes. he did declare he is quote, dismayed by the ongoing absence of a strategy by the disengaged administration. republican hawks sounded a similar note. graham and mccain launched a joint statement, we need to get beyond a policy of half measures and comprehensive strategy to...
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it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting against party leadership in the past. but boehner finds himself in an increasingly weak position. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to take a position on boehner's debt plan today. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house leadership for trying to move. the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> house democrats are cranking up the pressure. tim walsh of minnesota introduced a discharge petition on the middle class tax cuts in the house. if it gets 218 signatures, it would get a floor vote before the end of the month. >> this is an issue that we all agree on. >> democratic leader nancy pelosi announced a plan for the discharge petition last week. the petition keeps the focus on extending tax cuts for 98% of americans. i spoke to leader pelosi late this afternoon about the strategy and the latest de
it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting against party leadership in the past. but boehner finds himself in an increasingly weak position. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to take a position on boehner's debt plan today. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house leadership for...
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the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is spending the money, has billions of dollars right now. they can't spend it all quick enough. and for some reason, this administration and the republicans in the house and the senate decide we're going to start spending more money. i mean, they can't spend it quick enough. and it reminds me of the stimulus package. >> yet huelskamp had no problem supporting relief in august affected by the drought. marsha blackburn, another no vote was quick to lobby for federal disaster relief after storms went right through her district in tennessee. steve palazzo of mississippi rep
the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is...
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the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is spending the money, has billions of dollars right now. they can't spend it all quick enough. and for some reason, this administration and the republicans in the house and the senate decide we're going to start spending more money. i mean, they can't spend it quick enough. and it reminds me of the stimulus package. >> yet huelskamp had no problem supporting relief in august affected by the drought. marsha blackburn, another no vote was quick to lobby for federal disaster relief after storms went right through her district in tennessee. steve palazzo of mississippi rep
the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is...
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up next, speaker john boehner. we'll bring that to you live, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. >>> we're awaiting a statement from house speaker john boehner any moment now. and here he comes. here he is. >> a pleasant conversation. although i have to say, i was disappointed that the president refuses to negotiate. when it comes to the issue of funding our government, the house has passed four bills. four bills to fund our government and provide fairness to the american people under obama care. each of those four bills was rej
up next, speaker john boehner. we'll bring that to you live, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back?...
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that's why john boehner is nuts. if republicans weren't talking about it, democrats couldn't raise money on it. it's as simple as that. >> but, joe, sarah palin isn't backing away from her calls for impeachment. she was asked today if senate democrats would be on board. listen to this. >> do you really believe that's even vaguely possible? and which democrats would you be targeting to try to persuade them to join a vote to remove the president? >> amen. i absolutely passionately believe that it is possible. who are these democrats? you've got to know that there are still reagan democrats and blue dog democrats who will stiffen their spines and do the right thing. >> she thinks democrats will try to oust the president. is this going way beyond wishful thinking, joe? >> she's been smoking something, obviously. maybe spending too much time in colorado. i'm just telling you this is the most absurd thing she's said. you know, look. this is crazy. here is the best thing we can do. as a matter of fact, let's go back to boeh
that's why john boehner is nuts. if republicans weren't talking about it, democrats couldn't raise money on it. it's as simple as that. >> but, joe, sarah palin isn't backing away from her calls for impeachment. she was asked today if senate democrats would be on board. listen to this. >> do you really believe that's even vaguely possible? and which democrats would you be targeting to try to persuade them to join a vote to remove the president? >> amen. i absolutely...
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the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is spending the money, has billions of dollars right now. they can't spend it all quick enough. and for some reason, this administration and the republicans in the house and the senate decide we're going to start spending more money. i mean, they can't spend it quick enough. and it reminds me of the stimulus package. >> yet huelskamp had no problem supporting relief in august affected by the drought. marsha blackburn, another no vote was quick to lobby for federal disaster relief after storms went right through her district in tennessee. steve palazzo of mississippi rep
the vote helped john boehner avoid a bigger political disaster. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle attack the speaker for pulling a larger disaster relief package from consideration earlier this week. today's measure passed by the house by a wide margin of 354-67. all 67 no votes came from republicans. congressman tim huelskamp came on the radio and questioned whether sandy relief is really necessary. >> it's certainly loaded up with pork. it's my understanding that fema, which is...
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the senate still has it. >> it's not like boehner's putting that on the table. i don't think the president would accept that, i'm sure speaker boehner would accept that if the president's hoping to. >> very quick before i go, the k -- unloaded on -- this relationship between harry reid and john mccain, is it as bad as it looks? >> they have found times to work together in the past, but in this day and age, they have a hard time agreeing. >> was harry reid itching for a fight? >> i haven't talked to him, i didn't have a chance to talk to him about it, but i'm pretty confident, not only he was looking forward to it and so was the rest of the democratic caucus, the nomination process is broken, something's got to change and i thought that would have been the way to go. >> i think we're going to have you back, we got 18 days, hopefully it's not on christmas. >> come on. you know what? we're all going to go negative on everybody, if they ruin everybody's holiday plans. it's a long campaign. >>> up next, president obama weighs in on the legalization of marijuana. >>>
the senate still has it. >> it's not like boehner's putting that on the table. i don't think the president would accept that, i'm sure speaker boehner would accept that if the president's hoping to. >> very quick before i go, the k -- unloaded on -- this relationship between harry reid and john mccain, is it as bad as it looks? >> they have found times to work together in the past, but in this day and age, they have a hard time agreeing. >> was harry reid itching for a...
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john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like. and some parts they skipped because they were reading it out of a loose leaf binder and the pages stuck together. right then we should have known that was a bad sign. john boehner did not even succeed in getting all of his members sworn in when he took over as speaker. two new republican members of congress went to a reception and missed the swearing in. they apparently saw it happening on a tv screen that was playing at the reception, and they sort of tried to swear themselves in by raising their right hand to the television. but
john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like....
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i don't think it's about boehner capitulating to the democrats. i think it is him understanding the future of the republican party, immigration reform has support among the gop, and understanding that that is going to set his party on a better path going forward. >> listen i love the folks at huffington post but the story is that he's considering not -- >> right. >> we're getting ahead of ourselves. let's not have the parade yet. i know how much you want this. but even so if he took any of those steps that your political fantasy would hold, he'll be status as speaker and you'd have eric cantor. things would be no better. >> what would get done in the interim? >> here's the thing, alex -- >> it's not christmas yet. >> the thing you have to that i am thinking of is in that interim period when he might be trying to think about what he does after congress like working in a lobbying firm he's not going to do anything. he's not going to do anything that would jeopardize his future in conservative circles. that's why i don't so much think that we're goin
i don't think it's about boehner capitulating to the democrats. i think it is him understanding the future of the republican party, immigration reform has support among the gop, and understanding that that is going to set his party on a better path going forward. >> listen i love the folks at huffington post but the story is that he's considering not -- >> right. >> we're getting ahead of ourselves. let's not have the parade yet. i know how much you want this. but even so if...